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Message: [QUOTE="crwiseman, post: 1258457, member: 83733"] Hello all, after I moved at this time last year I sold my 1980 Maico 504 that I have owned 20+ years. I just didn't have the room for and have not ridden it for 15+ years. So here is the point, recently a good friend and relative of mine bought a 2008 CRF450 Honda and wants me to go riding with him and his 11 year old son. I am teaching the kid how to ride off road on my 1971 Mini Trail 50 (auto) but all I had left to ride was my totally restored 1971 Hodaka Ace 100B. Not the best thing to flog at a muddy SVRA! So I am looking to get another dirt bike that I would store in my relatives's enclosed trailer. I have not really followed all the news and latest-greatest in the four stroke revolution of late so I don't know what to get. I am a little uncomfortable riding his 450 as it is just too powerfull, anything past 1/4 gas just slides it out plus it doesn't make any noise . . . what is a motorcycle without a memorable exhaust noise? (I own a Kawi 750 2-stroke triple too). It is also a little tall when you get to the walking in the muck speeds/situations. I used to have a new Honda 1983 CR480 but sold it as I was never at ease on it. I don't want to spend a lot of dough in case he gets bored with the sport so here are some local used bikes that have caught my fancy: 1) 2005 CRF250 asking 3.5k, 2) 1997 CR500 asking 2.5k. I am primarily a "fast" trail rider and I never crash (knock knock). I am also a "finick" who washes and cleans a bike after riding so I don't like a bike that looks like it has go farther on its side than on its tires. I don't really need CR500 power but I hate having to downshift to second or first to go over a monster hill. The electric starting on the 450F was way cool but I also realize it was something else to go wrong , heavy and might be problematic to keep maintained, etc. I do recently recall (2-5 years ago) that Yamaha made a nice 400 4-stroke enduro that seemed a nice compromise from the 2-stroke world. I also ride a lot of little kids on the tank and bigger ones on the back. My old Maico had buddy pegs added to it. Any and all general observations would be appreciated. [/QUOTE]

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