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[QUOTE="wake_rider, post: 1259020, member: 75633"]
There is quite a bit of difference between a cr500 and a crf450.  The smoker is a heck of a lot to handle in woods or on a mx track, but it's great if you plan on riding open fields, deserts, or sand dunes.  Not so great if you want to ride anything else.  The engine isn't refined enough to be a smoother powerband, they're kindof all or nothing with a real sharp increase in power as soon as they hit the pipe.

If I were you I'd stay away from the CRF line.  They are great for people that want to race because they are plenty powerful for their class and they come pretty race ready from the manufacturer.  That being said, they are pretty volatile.  When they break, they seem to break big and a little more often than the rest of the class.  Kawi's are bulding really good 4 strokes as well as Yamaha's.  It seems to me that you are really searching for more of a play bike and less of a racer, so I would recommend going with a early 2000's wr400 or something similar if you are wanting to go with a 4 stroke, but again I think I would go with a 250 smoker just for the fact you can find them very inexpensive and they are incredibly easy to work on....
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