I hope this helps. I first bought Oakley's w/ tear offs. Rode in the rain with them, treated the lens with Rain-x before the ride. Worked ok. In hard rain you can't see s#it anyway. The Rain-x didn't seem to work like on my truck, not enough speed.
An old mud trick I learned worked well for the rain though. Tape an old lens to the front of your visor, works for mud, rain, and late sun.
Then I stepped up and got a pair of Smith Warp's. Again at first I used tearoffs. Then I got the roll-off system. There are a few tricks to be learned here as well. First you need to put on the mud visor on the upper half of the lens. This works well alone to stop mud from getting in under the film, but be careful of water, be it rain or splash back.
You think water is bad on tear offs, you can't tear off on a roll off. It sticks to the lens and creats a suction and you can't advance the film. You have to stop to fix it.
The next trick fixes the previous problem, well I should say makes it better. You loop some 2 to 6# lb fishing line around the canisters, going under the film. This creats a gap between the film and the lens should some water get under it. This one alone has worked well for me. Note: use the smallest line you can get, cause you can see the line in your near sight (close focus, like inside your goggles).
Some would say I go through too much just for some goggles. If any of you out there are like me, you like your focus on the riding experience, not on screwing around with something that isn't working right, like goggles. I like to set them up and not have to screw with them again.
And to add to this my riding buddy thinks it's funny to roost me on muddy days. Sound familiar to any one? To solve this one, I look at the conditions the night before and choose my goggle set up accordingly. Wet and muddy- roll offs; loamy to semidry- tear offs; dry-neither.
One last note, if anyone has a partner like I do, a good defense to use is to duck your head right before the roosting comes on. This saves your goggles and your face. JMO........Good luck.
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p.s. I think the Pro Grip would be a kick-ass system if they would come out with some roll-offs. JMO....