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Message: [QUOTE="fatcat216, post: 1276593, member: 82767"] That seems the ultimate in humanness. Boy- I've never heard you utter a negative about anything Rod, let alone yourself. When I was a teenager, I learned CPR, and...at a restaurant I worked at, a guy was having a heart attack in our parking lot. I guarantee you, the same question ran through my mind. Having learned CPR puts you in an elite group of individuals to begin with. Making an honest effort to help, and not walking away when others were there, yet rarer group. It reminds me, a bit of an "Onion" radio story I heard just the other day...of a guy who saved a woman and 30 years later- she died anyway. A totally sick and funny story.... The fact is: We just don't get to choose when our number is up. By logical extension, you can't take the blame on something that is bigger and more random than you. Use it as a reason to practice more, or take refresher courses, or advanced skills. But to feel lousy about having made the effort to save a life? I think not. Secondly- the hands only doesn't say that the air isn't effective at all. None the less over the 30 or more years the compression rates/ratios have changed immensely. This is another extension of that, and of the times we live in. It's also a reflection of the statistical odds of why a person suddenly collapsed. I'll second that. Thanks for being the right kind of people Rod. :nod: I think you can rest easy... [/QUOTE]