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Message: [QUOTE="CR Swade, post: 182589, member: 21423"] Tomatoe, tomotoe...I'd make that same bet that no way H/D could pull off a competitive, light, affordable (in relation to Big Five) within 7 years. They are too far removed from that circle of thechnology. Rich hit it on the head earlier. Why bring on a huge debt load (ala C-dale), gamble that your design will work and meet with public approval, fund the nescessary race team to sell the product, only to flame out 10 years later, netting a huge loss? They present the best product for its intended audience period. Why would they jeopordize being able to continue to do that at a profit for the sake of a narrow audience that may or may not buy their bikes. Not good business sense.:silly: Btw, how much would you spend on a new sheet of paper design from H/D? [/QUOTE]