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Message: [QUOTE="Jeff Gilbert, post: 183383, member: 20280"] Exactly the reference I was looking for: As far as HD making a dirt bike [B](right off the show room floor, i.e.: MX, trails or woods) [/B] it would be like expecting Burger King to start making tires. Yes you can ride a HD on the trails, in the woods and on a mx track but that's not what they make them for so it would be unrealistic however I would bet that BK would come alot more closer to selling a pizza than HD diving into an off-road market which you have implied. HD = not mx, trails or woods bikes BK = not tires That's my American opinion ;) [/QUOTE]