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Message: [QUOTE="smb_racing, post: 184485, member: 19356"] You can just hop on a harley and take off motometal, but most people choose not to for the same reason most people don't jump on their dirtbikes and take off. A cold engine has no lubrication in the upper cylinder, but riding it cold you're doing harm to the engine. Same applies for dirtbikes only slightly different (i.e. cold seizure) Don't flame harley for what stupid riders do. Harleys come from the factory with normal pipes as they are [B]required[/B] to pass sound emissions tests before they can be sold for street operation. Riders put on the loud pipes or knock the centers out of the stock pipes to make them loud. BTW dheard4992, someone does make an electric dirtbike, it was on ORC a few months back :silly: [/QUOTE]