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Message: [QUOTE="motometal, post: 184608, member: 24727"] Sadly, the laws are very lax regarding modification of exhaust on cruisers, at least im my state. Imagine if 90% of the car and truck owners purposely put straight pipes on their cars... Last time I checked, Harleys were pretty cold blooded stock, and a good warm up or the choke was required at start up (unless you change jetting). If I bought a car like that for that price, I'd be disappointed. Actually, you CAN just hop on a dirt bike with a cold engine and take off (ok, I will agree that a little warm up is good), without doing any real damage. I've done it for many, many years with a variety of bikes. Must not be too bad for them, as my top end maintenance intervals are wider than most, and usually the piston and rings are still in very good condition. my procedure: 1. Choke on, gas on 2. Kick it (usually starts first kick, as I have a Honda) 3. Choke off 4. Maybe about 30 seconds just above idle 5. Ride, but take it easy until the engine fully warms up the key is to not ride HARD with a cold engine. and yes, while I'm in my flame mode, it is annoying when a gang of bikes (usually tend to be 125s) down at the local joint rev the crap out of their bikes for 10 minutes in nuetral to "warm them up" while I'm trying to talk to someone in the pits. A lower rpm, low-load warm up would be bettter on the engine. <grouch mode off>:) [/QUOTE]