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Message: [QUOTE="twiggy, post: 182962, member: 23358"] Thanks guys. I'll try the the technique, but with an old XR, I'm not too sure how well that chunk of lead will "hop". SpeedyManiac: That's how I got through this one trail. But with an XR, the only thing that resembles "light" is that thing in front of the handlebars. It nearly killed me! wr200r: I like the "pile up smaller logs" solution. Sound like what I will do until I develop some skills (which may take a while). It will also help when my wife is on a ride with me. Again, thanks for the help. Jon [/QUOTE]