Huston... We have a problem....

[Lost]

Yup, you guessed it. Jumping problems.


Ok 99% of my jumps up to 20-30 feet distance im guessing(i dunno, ive never taken a tape measure!!)... Problem is when im coming out of a corner hard on the gas. Occationally i have a tendency to kick the rear end out because i have just finished, or and finishing the turn as i am going up the face of the jump. I try to avoid this, but i have been going faster and faster and now i am pushing the end out so far i am crashing on landings :( :bang: :bang:

I am a road racer and when i start going sideways, i think i am turning the wrong way.. I guess it triggers my losing the front response in road racing. Anyway, how do i fix my problem? If i am turning left then jump and im a little crossed up which way do i turn the bars? Actually better yet what do i do as a whole? Most of the jumps i am at now are i guess 15-30 foot jumps at max. I ride at the vet/novice track at Elsinore if that helps. Thanks!!

 

[HajiWasAPunk]

My son was having this exact problem just recently and we went to private instruction as a result.
Here's what we learned:
The whipping off of jumps is caused by going up the face sideways, stabbing the throttle on the face or sometimes ruts in the face (his problem was the first two). It sounds like you're problem isn't the jump but the turn before. You've got to get the bike under control coming out of the turn and being going basically straight on the face (at least for novices). One thing that may help, try leaning the bike more to get through the turn faster (and take a tighter line) leaving more space to get straightened out ahead of the jump.

The other thing that makes a HUGE difference in the event you do get whipped unintentionally in the air, land on the gas. This is the single biggest thing I've learned to do that takes the blow of the landing out and also greatly reduces the chance of a sideways jump resulting in a crash. My son was going sideways, getting scared, and landing dead on the gas. Now that he's been better taught, even when he does whip a little, he's not crashing. Hope this helps.

 

[Masterphil]

If you want any hope of saving a whipped out rear on the landing, you need to land front wheel first.

 

[ellandoh]

if possible hit the berm before the jump , higher so you will have a longer run at it , or get a little better throttle control. 3rd but best thing to do is carry more speed into the corner and you will need less throttle after to get up to clearing the distance speed.


:aj: COMING IN HOTT :aj:

 

[oldfrt613]

Patience grasshopper ( realy showing my age now ) sounds like your pulling the trigger on the throttle too soon. Try getting a little straighter before you pull the trigger.

 

[Lost]

Thanks everyone!! Ill give it a try tommorrow!

 

[Wraith]

If the bike kicks out the rear end, I like to turn the bars into the direction of the kick. Just to try to "lock up" the bike with the steering stops, and then if this method slows down the whip I'll try to push the kicked out rear end back in alignment with the appropriate leg. Of course you have to maneuver your body a little to do this, and it takes a little time to get it down and it's just easier to jump straight to begin with but not everything goes right, does it.

 

[maxkiks77]

My son was having this exact The whipping off of jumps is caused by going up the face sideways, stabbing the throttle on the face or sometimes ruts in the face (his problem was the first two). It sounds like you're problem isn't the jump but the turn before.
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What do you mean by stabbing the throttle off of the jump? Does this basically mean that you give it a slight brap, then let off in the air?

 

[HajiWasAPunk]

stabbing the throttle meaning getting on it hard at the last minute.

 

[Lost]

If the bike kicks out the rear end, I like to turn the bars into the direction of the kick. Just to try to "lock up" the bike with the steering stops, and then if this method slows down the whip I'll try to push the kicked out rear end back in alignment with the appropriate leg. Of course you have to maneuver your body a little to do this, and it takes a little time to get it down and it's just easier to jump straight to begin with but not everything goes right, does it.

This is the info i was looking for! I was noticing myself doing this at the track today and having allot less kick. I just need to practice!