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Message: [QUOTE="KC_BigDog_51, post: 174936, member: 22442"] No. Thump, Patman, Agree with both of you. The Asterisk are very awesome product and have the best overall knee protection of any brace I have seen. There is a reason though that the Cti II braces are only available to the public by getting a prescription from a doctor. They are considered the best. I am sure that the Asterisk will rival it for supremacy in the knee brace world in the years to come. Just trying to let yzguy know about some other options. [/QUOTE]