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Message: [QUOTE="zcookie49, post: 343886, member: 21043"] I tell you what, I get so much useful info here it is crazy..... the Shoei I was looking at was last years VFX-R, the Razor model, not the trytar, the razor does look better. Thanks for the input because online, the Shoeis are like Glistening shiny, and the Arai white and blue model looks kinda dull. It is $365 with no returns on either model . They state that Arai is no longer selling helmets made after sept 01 thru on line or catalogs....Makes me wonder about availability on parts in future if a visor or something cracks.... I think I will go with the the Winham replica Arai Blue/white, $365 seems to be a pretty good deal for the best if not one of the best helmets out there. That price is final too, no shipping charges apply..... Thanks for all the input, all of the info is useful!!!! [/QUOTE]