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Message: [QUOTE="snaggleXR4, post: 195627, member: 24395"] Hey, My stock carb XR4 started in 2-3 kicks cold, 1 kick hot. With the pumper carb I just bought, it starts in 1-2 kicks cold and 1 kick hot. Even my 140 lb. riding buddy can start his XR4 as easy as I can. I would hardly describe it as being exhausting. He is only ~5'8" and with proper sag for his weight has no problem handling the XR4. Technology is great, e-starts are great, but to have to carry that big battery with you? What if your battery goes dead? It will one day. Will you be able to start your bike? On a street bike, or a small kids bike e-start is very nice, but on a real dirt bike? The old school dirt bikers would be ashamed of all of us. [/QUOTE]