TimberPig said:Have you got spark?
Compression?
Fuel?
Reeds?
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i already have one which is my bible. but with out knowing what is wrong its pretty usless.rm_racer said:I also suggest picking up a manual for your bike, their worth their weight in gold in many cases.
chunkus04 said:i already have one which is my bible. but with out knowing what is wrong its pretty usless.
of course i've read the troubleshooting section, and it says nothing about the problem im having. so without knowing anything about a motorbike engine, i thought i would try here to see what else i can do to find the problem not be partonised. thanks for you help but im not thick!!!TimberPig said:Most manuals have a section called troubleshooting which will help you determine what is causing it. Check yours and it may help you.
Have you actually ascertained that the compression is good with a gauge, or is this just the it kicks over hard so compression must be good guess you are making? Bikes with weak compression can kick over hard if you have seized the piston and the dragging is causing it to kick over hard.
As you are finding out, working on bikes, or other mechanical objects, requires more than a manual telling you what is wrong. You have to be able to use your head and make observations to be able to determine why it isn't working as it should. No book can tell you what the problem is, and neither can we, only possible sources for the given problem. You have to be able to troubleshoot what the cause and solution to the problem is, based upon what it is or isn't doing.
Check the reeds, and get a compression tester and give us an actual gauge reading of the compression. Those two things right there will make a big difference in whether it will run or if more work is required. Also make sure your spark plug is good. If fouled, it could fire outside the cylinder of the bike, but under compression could fail to fire. Replace it if in doubt.
Chili said:TimberPig pretty much summed up my thoughts, we can't give you a magical solution without you attempting some of the suggestions and reporting back. Since your not "thick" I'll assume you've done the absolute basic and replaced the sparkplug with a new one.
chunkus04 said:it has a brand new plug, the only things i havent checked yet because of the weather are the reeds and the compresion, i have spoken to one of my mates and he is sorting the tester out for me, i wasnt asking for a magical solution i was only asking what could be the problem! once i have found the problem then i can look at the solution. most of the suggetions have been checked while putting the bike back together so i know they are ok. like cleaning the tank as well as the carb, thats just common sence. by your replies im drawn to beleve that i need new reeds, but without checking i cant be sure. timberlog- wasnt ment to be funny but it just seemed like you were trying to talk down to me. so sorry and thanks for your help all of you.
TimberPig said:I wasn't trying to talk down to you and I'm sorry if it sounded that way, I was trying to tell you to get your butt back out to the bike and start checking those things and reporting back. We're not there, and since we can't observe the bike, you have to do it and report back in order for us to help you get this sorted out.
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thank you for your help, i will get out there and check those things when the weather is better as i havent got a garage, im just working in the back yard, which at the mo is cold and wet :bang:
this was the case, but i had my father in law take a look and he said the reeds seem to be in good condition. but without taking the head off we cant be sure.just gotta remember where i put the rest of the gaskit set :think: while we was looking i noticed id left the fuel tap on thus having no petrol in the tank, so i thought i might have been a complete idiot and not had petrol in it when i thought it wasn't working!! so put it all back together and put more juice in it, warmed the sparkplug and tried to start it. but it just wasn't having it!TimberPig said:I The 84 does indeed go back to the bolted to the reed block on the cylinder base style, that requires the cylinder be pulled to change or check them.
chunkus04 said:warmed the sparkplug and tried to start it. but it just wasn't having it!
Chili said:What do you mean by warmed the sparkplug? Please tell me you have tried a new plug and not just cleaned a fouled plug through this whole debacle?
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