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Message: [QUOTE="binthedirtnow, post: 919052, member: 60262"] The oil companies still suck because they will try to control our alternatives to fossil fuels - they already have. Hey bring on hydogen fuels, anything else, but I don't see that happening anytime soon - too much money taken away from the petroleum processing industries. Heck, the govt's just trying to find more oil, not other fuels, so give me a hybrid car so I don't need to play by their rules so much. :laugh: The auto makers need to pull their heads out and pump out those hybrids so they'll get cheaper and there'll be used ones on the market in the years to come. But who knows if they will... :bang: When you have to share the roads with a lot of them everyday in places where they are not needed, you will see how much SUV's suck. They suck when you have to sit behind them and breath the excessive exhaust smoke, and you can't see anything beyond their rr window and tail lights, and when you watch them pump $60 worth of gas :nener: (that's alot more crap in the air than my $20 full tank) in their tanks. We'll see where it ends up. They are dangerous to all the others they are involved in a collision with, not so much to the driver of the SUV..... Hybrid cars are a good step in the right direction - a mountain cannot be moved all at once, it must be taken one stone at a time. And lastly, I don't think you've spent the last 40 years in CA to see what I've seen - a lot of problems in CA are still up and coming to middle america. I watched the county I grew up in become blanketed with homes and infested with automobiles in about 7 years. Even when I was younger, on many summer days, I would have to spend the late afternoons sitting inside wheezing and drinking cold water because my lungs hurt too badly to take a deep breath. So, why would you expect me to have even the smallest bit if sympathy for so many millions of oversized and uneccesary automobiles that use up too much fuel and make my lungs hurt? I don't. No one needs a Porsche SUV..... :| Let me keep my little motorcycles. :ride: And give me my hybrid pickup. Soon. B. [/QUOTE]

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