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Message: [QUOTE="RJ-KDX, post: 514124, member: 33917"] Thanks CC, I think I know what you're talking about. A different taper is going to change the length of L1. As far as where the 2.515 is concerned. I've sorta waded through the archives, and found a little bit of info. Ok then, here is a question for you: Stock needle R1173L right, how come it doesen't measure 2.735mm? It has two diameters on it, neither of which are 2.735. One is 2.6924(.106"), and the other is 2.870(.113"). Am I missing something here? FWIW, I ordered a KHI R1174L needle, and a BEP,BGN,BEP, and BGP. The latter 4 are to play with. I'm going to replace the 1174 first. Do you have any suggestions as to which clip I should start on first? :thumb: Nothing in life is ever easy, if it was it wouldn't be fun. Also, you didn't catch me feeding the trolls, unless you have pictures. :yeehaw: :aj: :yeehaw: [/QUOTE]