jumping question.

[Camel]

:confused:

Hi

I'm new to the jumping on dirtbikes and hope to seek some advise on simple jumps on table tops on a 2 stroke bike.

here are my questions.

1) Do you turn off the throttle before the face of the jump?
2) WOT all the way up?
3) is there a special technique on seating on the jumps?
4) do you clutch in and take the jump?

thanks

 

[hjgird]

The best thing to do when you are starting to attempt jumps is to give constant throttle all the way up the jump face, just enough so that you are accelerating a bit.
Chopping the throttle on the face will make you go nose down and giving to much will make you go nose high.
Rather do the jumps in a gear higher than the experienced guys. This makes the bike more controllable.
While in the air if the bike is nose diving, twist the throttle all the way open and if the bike is nose high chop the throttle close (a brake tape give a much better effect but is a bit more difficult).
Try to find jumps with an even jump face to practise on. If the jump have a bit of a lip it will kick the back end up and you’ll have to give more gas when going over the lip. Jump faces with a very rounded top will tend to send you off nose high.
Do not WOT all the way up.
Do not sit when doing a jump. Stand in the attack position: Forward so you can see your number plate when you look down with your elbows out.
You only use the clutch if you want to do a brake tap.

 

[yz250-effer]

DItto hjgird:

LOTS of good advice there. Yes, seat bounce jumps come a little later in the jumping game. I would just add to build up your jump distances slowly, work on table tops first, and make sure your bikes suspension is in good condition. If your shock or forks are doing anything unusual, compared to other riders, either adjust you clickers/race sag, or get you suspension rebuilt.

:)

 

[berm buster]

jumping info

Hey Camel,
The other posts have been right on, there is some really good info.
Heres the way I would approach the jump, I would start out on a small
tabletop maybe 25 to 35 feet from start to landing.
And on a double jump of about 20 to 30 feet.

1. Approach both of these in 3rd gear, w/ the throttle about 1/3 to 1/2 open.
2. At the base of the ramp, start twisting the throttle, keeping the bike
constantly accelerating, as the front and rear wheels leave the face,
lean your upper body forward, and as the bike starts to lift, you lift your
self off the seat slightly, keep both legs bent.
3. Do not chop the throttle as this will cause the front wheel to go nose down.
4. While the bike is in the air, now you can let off the throttle, just keep about
1/3 open, and just as the bikes rear wheel starts to touch down, twist
open the throttle, this will take a lot of the harshness out of the landing.

You just did your first jump.

Heres the thing, you can get a lot of speed up and actually "coast" over the
jump, But I would not advise this until you have more experience jumping.

I jump this way all the time, but if you approach a double jump with not
enough speed, your front wheel could land right on the landing face, which
will usually throw you right over the bars! You can coast up a tabletop all day
long with no problems, in fact thats a good way to see what a little speed, as
oppose to a lot of speed will cause your bike to "get air"

The most important thing to remember with doubles, is to either jump it, or roll it, dont try to combine these 2 ways, it doesnt work very well, we have
all heard or know somebody who "cased a jump" see, they didnt have enough
speed to get safely over the landing peak. With a little more speed, they would have just glided right over it.


Once you get the hang of actually jumping, then you can work on how you
want your bike to land, such as both wheels at the same time, front wheel
first, or rear wheel first. But that is another subject.
The main thing to remember is to start out w/ small stuff, until you get
very comfortable flying thru the air, then later you can look at some of
the other jumps on the track.
Have fun and be safe, let us know if these tips helped.
:cool:

 

[hjgird]

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4. While the bike is in the air, now you can let off the throttle, just keep about
1/3 open, and just as the bikes rear wheel starts to touch down, twist
open the throttle, this will take a lot of the harshness out of the landing.
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It's amazing what difference it makes when you land with the throttle open. It really smoothes out the landing.

 

[Camel]

Thank you for all the reply sure helps me alot.
I have rode for a short while and tried to hop onto the table top with success at 4th gear 1/4 throttle.So far so good. Only sometimes when i close the throttle too soon which caused the nose to drop.

thank you for all the help.

 

[Tom_joad]

Ive said this in other posts and some people may think it crazy, but if your looking to jump doubles, practice casing the jump. When I first started jumping doubles, I would coast off the take-off and almost case the landing, then one day I decided to just case the dang landing. So I did, I was prepared for it though, so I rolled right out of it, unharmed. After that, I knew exactly what speed to use to clear it and I wasnt scared of casing it. To this day, I can confidently jump doubles and triples and in a race situation if I have to jump something a little too big for me, I know I can go for it and most likely Ill be able to pull out of it if I case it. Just be prepared to case it, and 9 times out of 10, youll be able to save it. Those of you who can jump doubles, try it, youll be suprised to what you can land on if youre prepared. I think the way you get hurt is when you get scared and freeze and you cant control your bike to pull out of it.