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Message: [QUOTE="Skystutts, post: 33760, member: 16210"] Hills? I Love Hills! YZ250Man, We need to go ride some hills sometime! To the jumping. The drop offs are a great idea. small mounds (terraces in a pasture) are good. What helped my sons most (mind you I am no jump expert. Probably couldn't even do a double at a mx track. I can, however, jump everything I need to jump on the trail) was a small ramp I built in the back yard. It was about 16" high, 10' long, and 4' wide. It was long and wide enough not to be scary and only high enough to get them off the ground. They landed on their front tire a few times but it was low enough not to hurt. Eventually they were sailing up to 15' off this low, small ramp. It might work for you? ------------------ [b][i]Skystutts[/i][/b][i][/i] [b]CR250[/b] [i]Hero in Training[/i] [/QUOTE]