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Message: [QUOTE="WaltCMoto, post: 208066, member: 21177"] Hey Ken, I thought Jim Cary was the Grinch:D I think the whole holiday thing is over done, and that turns a lot of people off to them. After all, If it is supposed to be a church thing, then why do we end up spending so much on gifts, and only a third of the people even go to church? My family seems to grow further apart each year, we still all get together, but as we get older, each of us seems to be more conserned about our own familys and our own little world, and less tolerant of the others personality quirks. Then theres my wifes family, we all give big hugs, have a good time, not up tight about anything, and enjoy the holidays. For me personaly, Its the winter months that get me bummed, Ive got a count down to April 1st. Time to get out side, go riding, work in the yard, go riding..... Whadaya say we not park the bikes, but plan a mid winter bike trip to a warmer place for a long week end? [/QUOTE]