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Message: [QUOTE="gwcrim, post: 1350698, member: 35528"] Our PW 80 is the quietest bike we have. And that's after I hacked up the silencer. They're great bikes and they'll take lots of abuse. But they sure don't compare at all to a KX anything. That plus you started out saying he wants to race. A PW isn't a race bike, plain and simple. The more you treat one like a race bike, the shorter it's lifespan will be. Check out that $999 KX65. If it's an ex-race bike, I'd probably look around more. [/QUOTE]