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Message: [QUOTE="oldguy, post: 1317393, member: 16965"] That would be ideal but often we are racing 2 different tracks i a weekend so with an oil change Saturday for 2 bikes there might not be enough to finish on Sunday. That and I like to drain the oil when it is still warm and often just don't have time to warm it up and do the oil change when I get home (my son usually goes straight back to college from the track) I also have a tendency when home to drain the oil and while it is finishing starting another project which sometimes causes me to forget exactly where i was at in the beginning (oldtimers disease first phase I guess) [/QUOTE]