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Message: [QUOTE="UP Magoo, post: 1219876, member: 29635"] Heh- I agree with salgeek on this... I think Joe Average is a bit put off by the cost of maintaining today's four-stroke bikes. IMO, [I]that[/I] is what will keep two-strokes alive. After reading these posts (and trying to keep up with SmitDogs number crunching), I'm leaning toward something similar to the MX Lites and Motocross: "Enduro Lites" 85cc-199cc 2-stroke/125cc-250cc 4-stroke and "Enduro Open" 200cc-500cc 2-stroke/251cc-650cc 4-stroke My thinking is to keep what we think of as the "big bikes" ( 250 + 2 strokes, 400 + 4 strokes) together and the "little bikes" (85, 125 and 200 2 strokes and 250 4 strokes) together. All JMO, of course... :nod: [/QUOTE]