:blah:Davey Coombs in Racerhead said:. . . people remember that Carmichael had few problems battling with Windham when he was still on a Honda CR250R, but there is a difference. Let me explain.…
Anyone who has ever gone to a big minicycle or even amateur national race knows how different the tracks form when compared to on any Sunday. The lines through the corners are tighter, the braking bumps smaller, and the ruts just a little choppier. It can be tough to get into a flow on a 250 (let alone a 450) on a track that was set up by kids on 80s.
Well, two years ago, less than half the field were on four-strokes in the 250 class, and the 125cc tiddlers still ruled their namesake class. Now there are usually a total of four two-stroke motorcycles in every national—Brett Metcalfe‘s YZ125 and the KX250s of Bubba, Mike Byrne and Sean Hamblin. As a result, the lines through every corner run deeper, as the power of a 450F or 250F is utilized at different exit points than someone on a two-stroke 250. The tracks are just bigger and longer as a result, as everyone pushes to the outside to roll the power on.
In supercross, everyone keeps it tight and straight and the tracks rarely break down, so a 250cc motorcycle is still the brand of choice. But outdoors, more is better when it comes to power, and the tracks have been altered as a result. The banners may be in the same place, but the lines have changed because almost everyone is riding a four-stroke, and that seems to be starting to frustrate Stewart. He looked every bit as aggressive and creative as he always has, but he just couldn’t make a dent in all that power. Those little inside berms that he was always so good at railing are mostly gone now. Instead, he’s being made to race a “bigger” track, and that’s why he’s starting to talk about getting on a 450 as soon as possible.
Yes, that's exactly why RC is on a 2-stroke.That said, a 2-stroke can make lines the thumper cant, and you would think someone could capatilize on this and find them smooth lines the big fat heavy thumpers cant hit.
Okiewan said:Yes, that's exactly why RC is on a 2-stroke.
Seems to me, everyone complains about the 2 vs 4 thing until Stewart is involved, then suddenly, the 4 has no advantage. Tell that to the top 10 in the Nats right now. Why is RC on a thumper? Because Suzuki "makes" him ride it? Don't kid yourself, Suzuki will lick his boot soles several times a day if he asks them to. If you don't believe a 4-stroke is faster, or at least easier to go faster on, you are in denial, period. RC said that himself, for all you RC worshipers :p
You guys need to make up your minds... is the 4-s an advantage or not?
As a result, the lines through every corner run deeper, as the power of a 450F or 250F is utilized at different exit points than someone on a two-stroke 250. The tracks are just bigger and longer as a result, as everyone pushes to the outside to roll the power on.
Maybe that is the problem they built the motor too fast for him to ride.mafols said:Will you be at a disadvantage in the outdoors with all the other top guys on 450s?
The new 2005 Kawasakis are really fast stock. Rick Ash, he actually built this motor that I can’t even ride right now! It’s too fast. I don’t think I will be at a disadvantage. I know when the Kawasaki four-stroke does come out, I am going to get on that. I think we are right there. We have power. We are good.
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Ryone said:Yes... but it's not the bike... it's the rider :ride:
That's what this whole thing is about.
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