MXdN Spoiler

D

dirt bike dave

Sponsoring Member
May 3, 2000
5,348
3
Team USA wins!

Each team can throw out their worst score.

In the First Moto (MX1 & MX2) Tedesco scores an impressive 6th on the small bike!

Windham was leading for half of Moto 2 (MX2 & Open) before going down. Still remounted to finish top 5.

Carmicheal wins both his rides, but Townley kept him honest in Moto 3 (MX1 & Open). Windham took 3rd that moto.

Too bad for the Kiwis that their 3rd rider (Cooper) could not manage a slightly better result (23rd each of his motos). They missed the podium by one point. Townley & Coppins did great.

Steve Ramon had a strong ride for Belgium on the small bike, and that also earned a medal for his country at the expense of the Kiwis.
 
W

weimedog

~SPONSOR~
Damn Yankees
Nov 21, 2000
959
2
RC did his thing. Looks from the posting that Ben Townley will be a contender next year. Just remember its a whole new set of tracks for him. Takes a year or two for most to learn the circuit. Townley beat KW. That puts him in the hunt with Reed, KW, and JBS. (Oh yea...I keep forgetting Alessi.)
 

Okiewan

Admin
Dec 31, 1969
29,550
2,238
Texas
Humm.. new tracks for Townley if he comes here, then you mention he beat KW there.. pretty sure the same excuse applies to KW? Wonder how often he's ridden in France?

Ol' Ben is the real deal!
 

JPIVEY

Sponsoring Member<br>Club Moderator
LIFETIME SPONSOR
Mar 9, 2001
3,177
0
Moto1 (MX1 and MX2)

1. Carmichael, Ricky Suzuki 35:52.761
2. Coppins, Joshua Honda 36:00.181
3. Pichon, Mickael Honda 36:07.889
4. Leok, Tanel Kawasaki 36:33.092
5. Everts, Stefan Yamaha 36:48.056
6. Tedesco, Ivan Kawasaki 36:49.925
7. Tortelli, Sébastien KTM 36:50.723
8. de Reuver, Marc KTM 37:01.901
9. Ramon, Steve KTM 37:04.875
10. Mackenzie, Billy Yamaha 37:14.988
11. Nunn, Carl KTM 37:16.850
18. Rattray, Tyla KTM 37:50.832

Moto2 (MX2 and MX Open)

1. Townley, Ben KTM 36:13.816
2. Vuillemin, David Yamaha 36:23.311
3. Ramon, Steve KTM 36:32.988
4. Philippaerts, David KTM 36:35.110
5. Windham, Kevin Honda 36:51.853
6. Strijbos, Kevin Suzuki 36:56.094
7. Garcia Vico, F Honda 37:18.508
8. Ristori, Marc Honda 37:20.725
9. Atsuta, Yo****aka Suzuki 37:21.575
10. Seistola, Matti Honda 37:27.664
11. Nunn, Carl KTM 37:28.372
16. Rattray, Tyla KTM 37:48.148
29. Tortelli, Sébastien KTM 37:11.056

Moto3 (MX1 and MX Open)

1. Carmichael, Ricky Suzuki 35:34.904
2. Townley, Ben KTM 35:39.967
3. Windham, Kevin Honda 35:50.717
4. Coppins, Joshua Honda 36:12.696
5. Pichon, Mickael Honda 36:17.609
6. de Reuver, Marc KTM 36:22.992
7. Vuillemin, David Yamaha 36:29.152
8. Strijbos, Kevin Suzuki 36:33.253
9. Everts, Stefan Yamaha 36:36.942
10. Leok, Tanel Kawasaki 36:39.921
14. Philippaerts, D KTM 37:18.000

Overall Nations Classification

1. USA 16
2. France 24
3. Belgium 31
4. New Zealand 32
5. Great Britain 56
6. Estonia 59
7. Netherlands 82
8. Portugal 83
9. Republic of South Africa 86
10. Spain 99
 

nephron

Dr. Feel Good
LIFETIME SPONSOR
Jun 15, 2001
2,551
0
I heard Rossi set the lap record there last week on his M1. Looked to me like Farmer Francois drug the thing with a land mover. Was there a jump (NOT including tables and skijumps), or possibly a bump somewhere out there? If they can't learn how to build a track by this time, then they need to come over here and leave it to us. It'll be easier for me to make it to the race next time as well.
 
C

Combat767

It's all about the dirt..
Nov 20, 2001
200
0
Congratulations to Team USA!! :aj: :aj:

It'll be great to see how Ben does in the states. Nothing like adding more competition to 2006 to make the racing even better!! Woo Hoo!!
 
M

muddy226

Sponsoring Member
Sep 14, 2003
271
0
Track is the same for everyone, and RC seemed to like it well enough. Having said that, it did seem as though it favoured the less technical riders. I think the French were unlucky, but RC would have won anyway, and the biggest lesson seemed to be the importance of a good start. Still, it was good fun and apparently there were 40 000 spectators, which is pretty good for a MX.
 
W

weimedog

~SPONSOR~
Damn Yankees
Nov 21, 2000
959
2
Okie, the same "track familiarity" issue for Townley does apply to KW in my humble opinion. This weekend proves Both are very fast...in the same speed league. That translates for me into a four way race for second in next year's outdoor nationals.. barring retirements and injury... KW, Townley, Reed, & Bubba. If RC retires...it's a battle for first. If RC loses some fire & desire....its a five way race. (Oh yea Alessi.....right there I'm sure) Can't wait for the SX season to get over with so we can see next years outdoor! (Just hope the SX season doesn't break up any of the top five.)
 
T

TheGrinch

Member
Nov 26, 2000
827
0
Congrats to Team USA. I knew NZ would give your boys a run for their money. Townley & Coppins have been performing very well in Europe of late.

As suspected Australia didn't even make the top 10 :( We would have had a much better chance of making the top 10 if the team consisted of Reed, Byrne and McFarlane.

I reckon France could have won if only Sebastien Tortelli did an Alessi's and dived for Tedesco's kill switch when the two came together in race 2 :laugh:
 
Last edited:
A

Anssi

Member
May 20, 2001
868
0
weimedog said:
That translates for me into a four way race for second in next year's outdoor nationals.. barring retirements and injury... KW, Townley, Reed, & Bubba.
Click to expand...

Otherwise fine, except Townley will be annihilating MX Lites. This MXdN race was the first one where I have seen him handle the 450 with the same kind of aggressivenes he had in MX2 last year, so maybe on more year on the small-bore is not as bad as making Reed go back was.
 
B

BEEF706

Sponsoring Member
Jan 24, 2002
1,566
0
I'm really proud of Ivan there was a little trash talk about how he didn't belong, but :aj: he rocked. NM ex-pat looked great. It's gonna be exciting to see Ben over here :)
 
M

miko

Member
Nov 26, 2003
45
0
BEEF706 said:
I'm really proud of Ivan there was a little trash talk about how he didn't belong, but :aj: he rocked.
Click to expand...

I thought Ivan was going to be the weak link but obviously not. He stepped up to the task. He and Tortelli were at it all day long, and Tortelli won a championship before coming to the US.
I don't think track familiarity made much difference. DV and Tortelli have been racing in the US for a while so it is not obvious how familiar they were with it. What probably did help them thoughwas fan support. You always give a bit more in front of the fans.

What I think is very cool is that as of now the MX des nations is supposed to rotate between Europe and the US. Hopefully next time we'll get TV coverage.

miko.
 

MikeT

~SPONSOR~
Jan 17, 2001
4,095
11
Will they be showing the race on TV here in the US or are they still fighting about the money over brodcast rights?
 

marcusgunby

LIFETIME SPONSOR
Jan 9, 2000
6,450
2
Neph i dont understand your comments at all, it was a poor track in general but no one wants a outdoor sx track so they?? it was actually super technical and im amazed people dont see this, it wasnt sx technical, it was cut up and dried hard rut technical, one uphill section with 50 foot long ruts to go up is technical -not a great part of the track but its hard to ride, it was no road bike course -i guess you acting on info you have read rather than seen?
 
M

motoXman2005

Member
Jul 23, 2005
23
0


Not to be argumentative but... It wasn't US MX outdoor technical.

This is from what I have seen in the vids posted, what I have read at other sites and interviews with the Team USA riders.

The only thing technical about it was the fact you came off of very fast straights(uphill, downhill OR level) into tight one lined flat turns.

Technical usually means that you can have different jump
combinations through same section of track with each rider picking what works best for them. Or even turns where someone can rail the outside OR they can choose to use the inside.
Also a whoops section that can either be blitzed just riding the tops OR doubling/tripling your the way through them etc. I
could continue on what the majority of people were trying to say but I would just be beating a dead horse more to death. LOL

In the end though, you are correct on one thing, I was not there.
 

marcusgunby

LIFETIME SPONSOR
Jan 9, 2000
6,450
2

It wasnt a gp technical track either, it was just a poor track IMO, but like others have said it wasnt favouring a certain country or area, it had a whoop section that you dont generally see in gps, if we start building ama national tracks outside of the US it would be pretty pointless as the flavour of euro racing would be diluted.

Ive seen many gp tracks and many US sx and mx tracks, they vary alot within the gp and ama series, some are smooth and some are rough, some lots of jumps,

the track they rode had one big jump, many step ups, big ruts, inside lines and outside, i saw more passing than on the whole of the ama outdoor 250 series.

I think people need to watch the race to get a feel for it, it will never be a ama national track and i dont think it should.
 

MikeT

~SPONSOR~
Jan 17, 2001
4,095
11
MikeT said:
Will they be showing the race on TV here in the US or are they still fighting about the money over brodcast rights?
Click to expand...
Anybody?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar Topics

Motocross Of Nations ... The Teams
Replies
0
Views
634
Okiewan
C
Team USA Wins Foxhill Vet MXdN
Replies
0
Views
369
Cycle News Staff
C
MXDN entry list
Replies
10
Views
3K
2smoke
2
MXdN Qualifyers: SPOILER
Replies
10
Views
2K
kmccune
S
Alessi!! Alessi!! Alessi!!
Replies
16
Views
3K
mtk
M
Cookies are required to use this site. You must accept them to continue using the site. Learn more…