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Message: [QUOTE="Highbeam, post: 200453, member: 23735"] I stood for a good bit of time in both places where the people were going over the bars. These places are what gave me the concern, I have no desire to go over the bars. The rest of the course did look like great fun, especially the muddy woods part below the nasty downhills. I didn't ride it so I'm sure there was a ton of nice riding. Honestly, I haven't run a harescramble before so I was going to see if I was ready and to see what goes on. I'm starting out on a big pig and the weight would have made the pucker factor very high on these downhills. Is the next one more of an amateur event? traditionally? Is there at least more tolerance for beginners? You've got me a little pumped up to ride it. How do feel about the development in Orting? [/QUOTE]