sorry it's been awhile since i have posted, work and all, thanks a lot for the help!! i was able to bend the bracket that holds the clutch cable where it goes in to the motor and was able to get the clutch to engage-- disengage, and was able to ride it !! still not much adjustment though but ride-able i guess?? do you still think i need to pull the cutch out, or check to see it i have the right cable on it mabe someone has changed it at some point? also the bike has been hit pretty hard on the left side, there where the cable goes in, so hard in fact the the mounting holes for the chain guard spocket have been broken it is tied on with a tie strap (sprocket cover that is) thanks again for the help still need to get the right oil for it though, changed it and put some 30 wt not riding it now need to find to 4 stroke stuff for sure.