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Message: [QUOTE="MrLuckey, post: 622847, member: 17313"] Greenie - a few notes about the electronic fencing. I've had a few dogs that just seemed to be untrainable with the 'positive reinforcements' methods referred to when it comes to things like digging etc. I would like to mention a couple of items regarding the electronic fencing we put in: It delivers a very small amount of electricity - not even enough that it hurts or even close to it, its a surprise and more of an annoyance than anything. Yes, I tried it on myself. Ours has a beeper that starts going off when the dog gets close, she doesn't just get zapped all of a sudden. Ours came with flags that we put up all around the perimeter at the same point that the beeping (warning) starts. We spent a lot of time the first couple of weeks walking Lucy around the yard with a leash, pulling her away once the beeping started as part of her training. Yes its part of her training (later on) to stray across the flags and get a slight tingle....I think she has actually got tingled maybe 4-5 times... she learned what the beeping and flags meant pretty quick. Dogs are pretty smart. As time goes by, you start pulling out every other flag etc. until there aren't any more visual clues.. but the beeping as a warning is always there. I've seen some owners of large dogs walk them with those choker collars on, trust me if I was a dog I'd rather get shocked before getting a choker collar yanked anyday. The mild shock our fence delivers could never be described as painful. It is more of a teaching aid. Lucy jumped the fence ONE TIME since we put it in and it was very early on. Since she got the hang of it, we've even left the gate to the driveway open a few times accidentally and she hasn't left the yard. Our alternative was to spend a couple grand building a 7' tall fence or find her dead on the road. I think we did the right thing. [/QUOTE]

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