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Message: [QUOTE="wardy, post: 191246, member: 16710"] [b]advancement ~[/b] ok where to start. first of all riders should be abvanced on a performance based advancement system which uses that riders scores and compares it to the other riders in his same class. Then the organization has to set these rules and enforce them. end of the season advancement is the only thing that I found that works. to many track series and such which is counter productive for a rider trying to do well in a series. C class around here recieves no points or year end awards. C class SHouldn't get contingency (my opinion), they should pay deeper in the other classes. AN very wise older racer gentleman told me a long time ago the "cherry" goes on TOP! Until it isn't cool to win Loretta's C class and get 1 grand in contingency or what ever it is, then the advancement and local track domination will continue to be a problem. We have used a 12 point average for B-A advancement and a 10 point avergae for C-B, with director or track referee discreation also. this is a long argued part of racing which i deal with and have dealt with for 11 years. Currently I am on the task force within AMA to help design and make a NATIONal advancement system for all AMA tracks, Districts Etc. Hopefully non-ama areas will do the same type of thing if they don't all ready. One thing I can tell you. Where there is a level playing field you will find those tracks prosperous, and well run. Where there isn't enforcement of class levels and alot of cherry picking going on, you will find less new riders and a very inconsisitant rider turn out. its very hard to have a system that works, everyone is always looking to have an advantage. i can ship you out a rule book if you wish.........i would have it posted but have to get a certain "president" to copy it to me so i can post it up........huh aj? LOL [/QUOTE]

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