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Message: [QUOTE="freakystyley, post: 1354350, member: 73918"] you mentioned a 250cc, is that a 4 stroke 250? it won't quite act like a moto 2 stroke 250 (which may be more like the CRF450 you were on!). I would get an electric start 4stroke "250" sized bike like a honda CRF230F or yammie WR250F. other option is to look for a used 125/250 moto bike and tame it for woods (I went this way a few years back and love being able to rip up the track with buddies instead of plugging along on a rig with an extra 50 pounds eating roost) [/QUOTE]