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Message: [QUOTE="Patman, post: 1325165, member: 16962"] :laugh: Really? Ever actually LOOKED at the service requirements on a current 4 stroke? Pretty much the same top end life as a 2 stroke. Oh sure you [i]can[/i] push the limits but that's the same for either one and crank pieces through the case cost pretty much the same. A YZ125 might be a good fun trail bike if it suits your style and you are really the only one that can decide that since we know virtually nothing about you. My son rides a CR125 and loves it but he's not a putt-putt rider. If you want a good reliable solid bike then the best advice I can give you is make sure the bike you are riding is in tip to condition with all maintenance performed to the letter of the factory service manual. Then make some smart add ons like a pipe guard and skid plate and take some basic spares & tools as well as a few wraps of duct tape and some cable ties. I ride one of the ultimate run forever bikes (XR250) but I've never had issue with any bike I've owned as it was kept in a good state of repair. The flip side being I've spent more time helping people that didn't maintain their bike get thier bike running at the trial or on the trial than I can even remember. [/QUOTE]