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Message: [QUOTE="motometal, post: 427441, member: 24727"] how about ephedrine? the latest fad at our workplace is "dietary supplements" with the brand name "Advocare". Several of the more popular offerings from this multi-level marketing company have substantial amounts of ephedrine, also known as legal speed. This is one of the key ingredients in crank! But they try and head off the anti-ephedrine crowd by claiming it has been "de-natured"...right... So I get to work around several office ladies all cranked up on this stuff, jabbering a mile a minute. Then I hear how they get so used to it, if they don't take it they are so "down" and tired they can't hardly work. Sad! I did a bit of research on the stuff, definitely on the FDA warning/watch list and has been know to cause heart problems, especially if taken with caffeine. This company "Advocare" has people trully brainwashed...it's so expensive the only way most people can affoard it is to be a dealer and sell the stuff...yea, just like illegal drugs...also, none of the people selling the stuff have any real knowlege of the product and it's effects, just what they were told by the person the next step up the pyramid. I have taken ephedrine in college (to stay awake and study) and in cold medicine. Yes, it makes you feel "up", but can't be good for you to take on a steady basis. <soap box mode off> [/QUOTE]