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This is from the discussion forums of the Pacific NW 4 Wheel Drive Association. (The counties mentioned are in Oregon but it could happen anywhere.) Don't know for certain that it is factual but, doesn't hurt to be aware of your surroundings.

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This is IMPORTANT: Information from the BLM on a pipe bomb that was found at a gate. We have gotten more details. It was an 8-inch long, 2-inch diameter heavy-schedule PVC pipe. It was attached to a Swanson gate in Douglas County. When the bombsquad sprayed it with a water canon, it exploded. It had a mercury switch inside that detonated with movement.

In addition, a small, gunpowder-filled bomb with a fuse was found in Clackamas County. It was made out of PVC also, with two caps threaded onto a double-ended female connector.

If you see something that doesn't look right, leave it alone. Nothing more than terrorism being used to push a very radical agenda.

Don't become avictim. Be alert. Pass on to your riding buddies
 

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You know it's pretty pathetic when environmentalists, who want to preserve land and open space, target dirt bikers with pipe bombs - dirt bikers who want to preserve land and open space.
 

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In this case, it was an OHV park for all off-road type vehicles, 4x4's and all.

Unfortunately, the way society is anymore, I don't think any activity is safe from whacko's that would plant such a device. Kids at parks can't even be left to play alone anymore.

I do not know if any of the info is indeed for real, I got it from an email of a friend who got it from someone that reads the 4x4 site but, it makes sense to be aware of things that look out of place. I checked several places for hoaxes and nothing came up and it was posted on the PNW4x4 forums.

XRPred, we've talked about packing for rides, if for nothing else than to scare away some of the larger critters we seem to run into much more often than we used to.

We've had encounters with bears several times - momma & cubs :eek: and a few times with moose, once a big bull and twice a momma & her calf.

I think I'll be taking a second look when out & about, especially when picking up trash at our riding areas.
 

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Moose? Bears? Sounds like Wyoming! Where are you at?

Everyone here, and I mean everyone, carries bear spray. A pistol, no matter the size, won't stop a charging grizzly before he kills you - you'll have maybe 5 seconds to ready the gun, aim at the knee joing - which is bouncing - and fire. Yeah right.

Bear spray will knock him/her to the floor.
 

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Eastern Washington - Spokane area. Bear Spray sounds like a useful thing to carry. Where do you get it? Hunting supply places I assume. Is it like hare spray?

How does it work on cougars? We have yet to see one but we've found plenty of tracks. Makes a morning jog or mtb ride up the mountain a bit spooky, especially when the dog refuses to go with us!

Reminds me of a blonde joke:

A guy is driving down the highway and a rabbit jumps out in front of his car. The guy trys to swerve to miss the bunny & splat, hits him killing him dead.

The guy gets out and trys to save the bunny but it's dead. A blonde driving the other direction sees the guy parked on the side of the road, standing over the bunny in total grief so she stops on the other shoulder.

She runs over to the guy, sees he's upset and crying so asks him what is wrong. "The bunny, it just jumped out in front of me! I tried to miss it but couldn't. Now it's DEAD!!!" "Calm down now, I can help." said the blonde as she ran back to her car. She returned with a big spray can and sprayed the bunny. The bunny jumped up, hopped 3 hops down the road, turned and waved. He hopped 3 more hops, turned & waved. He continued doing this until he disappeared into the woods.

The man stared at the blonds in and in total disbelief he asked "What in the world is in that can?" She turned the label to the man and it saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

"Hair Spray" "Revives dead hair and adds a permanent wave."
 
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bbbom said:
Eastern Washington - Spokane area. Bear Spray sounds like a useful thing to carry. Where do you get it? Hunting supply places I assume. Is it like hare spray?

Hare spray is just like bear spray. Monty Python take note.
 

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I haven't heard anything from my family in Oregon about these occurances, but I wouldn't be surprised. A friend of mine was called up to assist in securing an area once with the Washington National Guard because environazis were terrorizing campers. Nothing happened while his unit was there (probably because they were packing rifles instead of paint and sticks), but knowing that they were there because someone decided to get aggressive with voicing their opinion worried me. When did it get to the point of attacking one another because we have different hobbies? :ugg:
 

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Bear spray is basically pepper spray, but in a mini-fire extinguisher can. A large bottle can fire about 10-15 bursts, with each individual burst equal in volume to one whole can of "personal protection" pepper spray. With no wind or rain, the burst fires in a conical shape, approximately 30 feet long and several feet in diameter.

A friend was getting charged by a moose (they are everywhere here), and fired at the animal. The moose steeped back, wheezed, and fell to the ground with a thump. He thought he'd killed it!

Bear spray would most certainly work on a mountain lion, although I don't know anyone that's used it that way. Those suckers are scary, I've seen one less than a mile from my house too.

I love my firearms :) , I just don't trust them to take down a wild charging animal.
 

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The critters don't bother me it's the morons booby trapping trails that do. So now a days I take my friends Ruger, Winchester,Smith and Wesson :laugh:

Steve
 

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Thanks for the bear spray link! Didn't even know they made such a thing.

I agree that the loonies are much more disturbing than most any critter but the critter's seem to be getting to be a bit more of a concern.

Just this week they've killed one brown bear and a moose here in town (I work in town). The bear was doing some early morning rummaging around a local neighborhood and they dropped him because it was getting close to the time for kids to start walking to the neighborhood school. Apparently the tranquilizer's didn't work on him.

The moose was killed this morning after getting tangled in a fence then charging a kid walking on the street.

Gee, you think the fact the American dream is to live in the country on a 10 acre parcel has anything to do with it? It's only going to get worse.
 

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The problem with the critters is that a few years back the hunting regs for bear and cougar in Washington. So in turn the population of both has shot up which means that they are spreading out more and more looking for food. Add that to housing moving further and further away from the cities and you get them meeting somewhere in the middle. Then you get the eco freaks whining about hunting making it harder for them(hunters)to keep the population under control. The part that pisses me off is the yuppie eco friendly twerps that move into these overpriced housing projects whine about critters in the nieghborhood. Rant mode off I hope it made sense. :think:

Steve
 

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