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Message: [QUOTE="weimedog, post: 1163665, member: 20655"] Thats the Billion Dollar tax payer funded question isn't it? Doubt the F-22 is going to show off in public the way these Su's do. But I bet it has similar capabilities. The F-35 certainly does. :blah: The chances of a "one on one" are small...but thats another story. How about a ten to one JF-17 advantage? :think: Whats more interesting to me is how easily it is for some to believe in the complex technology they don't truely understand...comforting to put such faith in a theoretical performance envelope, with so many possibilities for "special conditions" to foil the Software behind the avionics controlling this stuff!! :coocoo: :coocoo: Spending as much time as I did dealing with extreemly complex S/W..I like the tangible vs. theoretical! Does anyone truely want to find out? I certainly hope we never do. :nod: Bottom line to this thread is thats some really cool stuff!! Wish I was able to play like that! [/QUOTE]