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Message: [QUOTE="wake_rider, post: 1291591, member: 75633"] Get a job and prove to mom how bad you want it. Show responsibility and she will be so enthralled with this new son of hers she will probably give in. I bought my own bikes just by working at a ranch shoveling horse manure after school/sports practices and my parents said that since I had made the money myself they would allow me to spend it on whatever I wanted. Keep in mind I was 13 years old when I did this. The way I saw it was that it was better than spending it on drugs like a lot of kids I knew.... [/QUOTE]