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Message: [QUOTE="spanky250, post: 153971, member: 20897"] There were a few exceptions, and yes, I have driven a GNX. What I am saying is that there was a time when cars like the T-Bird were special, they were unlike anything else in the brand's lineup, and they were the state-of-the-art for there respective market. In the '70s and '80s, all this changed, and American cars all turned into fat, bloated, unreliable and unexciting clones. It took the Japanese gaining a huge portion of the total market to snap the American car makers out of their rut and start to build exciting quality products again. And personally, I like the PT Cruiser. Economy cars have a neccessary place in the market, and Diamler Chrysler has hit on the right combination of looks, content, acceptable performance (remember, it's intended to be an economy car), in the intended target market to produce an economy car that people actually want to buy. No, it's not for everyone, but neither is a Honda Civic or Toyota Corrola. I for one applaud Them for taking styling chances, rather than staying with the stodgy, evolutionary tactics that GM and Ford prefer. Look at what happens when GM decides to take a chance, they produce something hideous like the Aztec, then wonder why no one buys their cars. [/QUOTE]