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Message: [QUOTE="High Lord Gomer, post: 774677, member: 16469"] Pushing the bike forward has more of an effect to push the front end down. When hitting a jump on the gas, you are (by necessity) fairly far forward and the front end may still end up rather high in the air. Once airborn, pushing the front end away from you pushes it down. Similarly, pulling the bars toward you pulls the front end up. I couldn't find any really good pictures, but here are two of the same jump. The first just after takeoff with an old, fat guy still fairly forward on the bike, then the second closer to landing with the bike pushed forward (down) to match the angle of the landing: [url]http://20-20racing.com/Gomer/Gomer_barrel5.jpg[/url] [url]http://20-20racing.com/Gomer/Gomer_barrel6.jpg[/url] [/QUOTE]