thanks for responding. the thing i am concerned with is the transition between 4 stroke to 2 stroke power. im so used to the four strokes power being smooth, i really dont know what to expect if i switch to a 2 stroke, i mean i never rode any of my previous 2 strokes like i have rode my 250f, if that makes sense, i never had them in tight woods or on a mx track, i just rode around in big open areas, nothing technical that required any skill. the main reason i am concidering getting rid of the 250f is because it feel so heavy to me and just doesnt handle the way i would like, it has a top heavy feel. a lot of people seem to thing im crazy and say they dont think the 250f feels heavy or has any handling issues but for me there is and i cant seem to get used to it. i really cant afford a brand new bike, i still have a few payments left on the 250f still, i should have it payed off by spring, i was thinking about selling it to get the money for another used bike then. another thing i was thinking about doing is looking into one of the new honda or kawasaki/suzuki 250 4 strokes, i hear they are pretty light and feel like 125's, but i would have to take out another loan to help pay for it and i really wouldnt like to do that. anyway if anyone has any info on any of the ktm 200's it would be great.