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Message: [QUOTE="georgieboy, post: 668535, member: 21186"] Last weekend i had the chance to ride a crf450. It makes me sad to say, but mine marzocchi suspension is not acceptable right now. After only a few yards i realised that this was how suspension shld work. No hits at all on square edges. Now i know that my suspension is really slowing me down. It just hits my hands on the square bumps. At least now i know what to look for. As i mentioned i had no lift at the midvalve. So now i go for lift. Any one can give me a hint for the amount of lift. Cartridge is 26mm id. By reading the archives etc i must think of 0.5mm and less. Right now i use 0.2mm(just put two 12x.1mm shims against the piston) I understand that my midvalve sees low swept volume of oil because of that small cartridge. The rod is 12mm. O and by the way, Marcus. As you are saying to try to keep yr stacks light, i assume that you have to increase oil height to compensate for bottoming?? [/QUOTE]