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Message: [QUOTE="Chili, post: 1308974, member: 29892"] Terry by Torque cam are you referring to the Stage 1 Hot Cam? As far as difference between the stainless and Ti valves, if the rider could tell, what differences would he be noticing? Also are we changing both intake and exhaust cams or just the intake in these kinds of setups? I've seen many posts that the Kibblewhite stuff is good for 300+ hours, should the other parts (guides, springs, retainers etc) be replaced on a much shorter schedule? The reason I ask is this same rider put the Kibblewhite stuff in his 04 RMZ and while the valves lasted without issue a spring retainer let go leading to a very difficult diagnosis process but thankfully no valve train damage. Not a knock as the retainer likely had well north of 100 hours when it wore through. [/QUOTE]