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Message: [QUOTE="whenfoxforks-ruled, post: 1309221, member: 73147"] We never tried the stage 1, we liked the stage 2. It is hard for a mx guy coming off a 2 stroke and get them to short shift. Trails, fine, need plenty of torque. Long outdoor track, stage 2 and at the time, we got talked out of the ti valves. Not that big of a difference off the top. A dyno shows it. I would be surprised if a blind rider could tell the difference. The guy we sold our modded 450 to, took everything off except Eric's head, it still screams on the top end, like a 2 stroke, and scares the hell out of the old rider! Replace the valves with the ss kibbles, and eliminate the head job every piston change. A retainer letting go on an rmz450, crap happens. Could have been defective? Chili is going to SEE Jeremy? Check out some of Brandon's handy work, he is modding heads! He does have the gift, and the right people behind him. I would use him for valve work, except I have access to one Danny Mitchell in my back yard. The ap, [url]http://www.readyracing.com/pdf/rapidresponse-productsheet.pdf[/url], end of issues and I really like these guys! Anything to increase oil flow and keep it cooler always seems a good idea also. [/QUOTE]