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Message: [QUOTE="nonickname, post: 750985, member: 52387"] Tie-breaker seconds are counted from 30-seconds into your minute. So if you were 1 minute down, then your tie-breaker seconds have to be somewhere between 30 and 89. If you missed your minute by 17 seconds, then your score would have been 1.0047. So yes, your total for the first two loops must have been 52 seconds. That's pretty good, since 24 MPH was a pretty good clip for that course. Also, I can pretty much guarantee Brent went into that last loop early. He usually rides with his dad, and Jay loves to ride way HOT. I was a minute behind Tim once, with Jay a minute behind me, and Jay spent most of that race riding in front of me (to try and mooch off of Tim). Couple that with the fact that you could fairly safely ride to 2.0 miles on that course, and I bet Brent's 33 MPH special was only about a mile long. And yes that was me (Andy Naylor) in the red truck. Didn't know it was your Ford. I didn't really feel like thinking of a good username when I registered for this board, figuring I could always change it later. According to the FAQ, I've got "nonickname" for life. I had a pretty good ride going until I tossed the bike on that long uphill. Too many fast guys in the club nowadays to get away with any mistakes. Second month in a row where 1 dumb mistake ruined an otherwise pretty good day. Oh well, at least I didn't get hurt this time. [/QUOTE]