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Message: [QUOTE="kingriz1, post: 254373, member: 24358"] Mark, All you can do is try. They have to be willing to help themselves if not its like banging your head against a brick wall. What substance/substances are we talking about here. I can only offer my advice. The substance is important. I need to know if it is physical,physcological or both. How often is the person using? How old? There is a different treatment for each substance. X or pot you can help them with. Pain killers and relaxants like xanax or rohipinol or pain killers you can also help them through Coke or meth and you might need some help. Detox is hell with the latter two and heroin. How long has this person been using. How long do you think the person has been dependent? Boy or Girl? There are two very important things to determine. First is what was above. Second is what is going on in the persons life that makes them want to escape so bad? I am gonna risk getting slammed here. But there is a difference between occasional use and habitual use. Though occasional use usually ends in habitual abuse and addiction. Once you find out what is wrong with them emotionally then you can help them see the light. I can say that no matter what you do. Rehab, lockdown therapy whatever, unless they are ready it is tough. But then again it is hard to stand by and watch someone you care about destroy themselves. If you can get me some more info I can try to help. Sincerely, Riz [/QUOTE]