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What a shock. :think:...that the shooter, Major Malik Nadal Hasan...
SS109 said:...that the shooter, Major Malik Nadal Hasan...
What a shock. :think:
...and a psychiatrist to boot...Chili said:I agree, what a shock the shooter was a Major.
Patman said:Firing squad for him!
SS109 said:He was upset about being deployed, was against the war, made some rather concerning statements about suicide bombers and that the people in Iraq/Afghanistan should fight the "aggressor" (the U.S.). Yeah, his belief system played no part in it.
Sorry, but I call them like I see them.
Patman said:Frankly I don't care what color, sex, or religion this could set a standard that needs to be nipped in the bud. He was in the military, was more than willing to accept a paid for education and future retirement therefore he gets to accept the same punishment he was willing to dole out, a life sentence is a joke for something like this, a slap in the face to everyone.
Doesn't Texas still have the death penalty? I think they do. If not send him back to his home state of Virginia, beause we still dodirt bike dave said:Six years from now, he'll get sentenced to life in prison.
MXSparx said:Doesn't Texas still have the death penalty? I think they do. If not send him back to his home state of Virginia, beause we still do
Chili said:I have no knowledge of US Military stuff but wouldn't they have Jurisdiction over this matter? Would the law and penalties differ?
Yes, he'll have to deal with Uniform Code of Military Justice ... He won't be getting any love from the public sector.Chili said:I have no knowledge of US Military stuff but wouldn't they have Jurisdiction over this matter? Would the law and penalties differ?
Hey, I just go by the info the news gives me. Not that they get things right but that is all the info I have to go on. Considering the info given I think my conclusion is fair. However, how you see it is right as well. It just differs from mine.Chili said:Every bit of that is "alleged" and was over 6 months ago with no action on the part of the investigators who would only speak anonymously.
I see someone who took an Arab name and made the instant leap to terrorist, had the guy who snapped been Joe Smith I doubt you'd give that angle a second thought. That's how I see it.
From what has been reported (again, if the news is correct), he killed a civilian and, therefore, could also be prosecuted under laws of the state in which the crime was committed.Okiewan said:Yes, he'll have to deal with Uniform Code of Military Justice ... He won't be getting any love from the public sector.
SS109 said:Hey, I just go by the info the news gives me. Not that they get things right but that is all the info I have to go on. Considering the info given I think my conclusion is fair. However, how you see it is right as well. It just differs from mine.
From what has been reported (again, if the news is correct), he killed a civilian and, therefore, could also be prosecuted under laws of the state in which the crime was committed.
I don't. Just saying that the civilian authorities can have a stab at him as well. However, if he did end up in a civilian prison he wouldn't get his 70 virgins before he got his 70 "Bubbas"! :cool:Okiewan said:Why would you want that? Civi court sucks... he committed the crime on a base, UCMJ baby. But then again, I'd rather he get to spend a nice long life, loced-up and missing allah and his 70 virgins.
Are you thinking a civi prison is tougher? Do a little research on prisoner's rights. Throw a soldier murderer in with soldiers? Not pretty and no ACLU looking over their shoulder.SS109 said:I don't. Just saying that the civilian authorities can have a stab at him as well. However, if he did end up in a civilian prison he wouldn't get his 70 virgins before he got his 70 "Bubbas"! :cool:
Oh, I know what would happen to him in a military prison. This fella is going to be hurtin' no matter where he ends up. He will pray for death long before the boys in either prison are done with him.Okiewan said:Are you thinking a civi prison is tougher? Do a little research on prisoner's rights. Throw a soldier murderer in with soldiers? Not pretty and no ACLU looking over their shoulder.
Currently, under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, 14 offenses are punishable by death. The following can receive this punishment at any times (with the article of the Uniform Code of Military Justice given):
94 - Mutiny or sedition
99 - Misbehavior before the enemy
100 - Subordinate compelling surrender
101 - Improper use of countersign
102 - Forcing a safeguard
104 - Aiding the enemy
106 - Espionage
110 - Improper hazarding of vessel
118 - Murder
120 - Rape and carnal knowledge
The following only carrying a death sentence if committed during times of war:
85 - Desertion
90 - Assaulting or willfully disobeying superior commissioned officer
92 - Failure to obey order or regulation
113 - Misbehavior of a sentinel or lookout
Interestingly enough, the method of capital punishment in the military has been hanging so far. The last execution carried out at the prison, which was also the last execution by the U.S. Military, was the execution of Army Pfc. John A. Bennett, on April 13, 1961, for the rape and murder of an 11-year-old Austrian girl. He was hanged. Recently, Sgt. Hasan Akbar was enetnced to death for the grenade attack at the beginning of the war. Green will share death row at the USDB with six others.
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