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[QUOTE="trailqueen, post: 1192580, member: 74508"]
Before I offer my suggestions, I feel you owe 'the guys' an apology for the title of your thread.  I depend on their advice and it's always dispensed with the best of intentions.  That being said . . .

I started on a TTR 230 and it's a tank.  I had it for 2 weeks and took the depreciation hit to trade it in for a 150F.  The TTR is great for open fire/loggong roads, but if you take it on any type of tight trails and drop it, you'll have to pick it back up.  Loading it on and off my pickup was a pain as well.

The 150F was a bit small but it served it's purpose well for two seasons. I traded up to a KTM 200 xc-w 2 stroke six months ago and couldn't be happier.  It's light, nimble and a blast to ride through the woods!!!!!.

So my suggestions are- stay away from the 230's.  They're dependable and easy to ride, but they're WAY heavy.  Try the 150F- 32.? seat height, the Kawasaki KLX300- 36.4" seat height, (both 4 strokes) or the KTM 200 (a 2 stroke) or XCF-W 250 (a 4 stroke).  both KTM's have a 36.4" seat height.  Good luck! :ride:

(btw - I'm 5'8 and 150 lbs and 50 years old.)
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