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Message: [QUOTE="Jaybird, post: 368509, member: 22283"] Lou, Great teach. I have a suggestion...maybe two (imagine that) Take off the whole thing. Pipe and all. You WILL find the creature from the black lagoon in the bottom of the pipe....If he's not there, I'm almost certain you will find his remaints. If you don't clean up his habitat, he will tend to ruin your nice clean packing :) (radiator shop or Easy-off) Also...jets, my friend....jets are cheap! :) [/QUOTE]