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Message: [QUOTE="Max Factor, post: 82072, member: 20244"] I hear ya about the silencer. The stock S/A silencer on my 380 mxc is massive. I looped out badly at an MX track a couple of months ago and tore the back fender off. I was thinking how lucky it was that I had my FMF power core silencer on otherwise the long stock pipe would have ripped the whole subframe off with it! To answer your question: The FMF non S/A Power Core 2 silencer I bought for the mxc is just as short as any of the Jap bikes. It barely pokes out from the end of the side plate. It does not have the bend. Picture your stock unit cut off at the bend joint. It has to be less than 1/4 the weight, really quite amazing. It definitely gives the bike more throttle response / 'hit'. I use it whenever I'm at a track / harescramble that doesn't require a S/A [/QUOTE]