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Message: [QUOTE="NM_KDX200, post: 949413, member: 38052"] I've been running just the Rev pipe for a little over a month now and have been very pleased except that I missed the low end pull of the K-35. Just the other day, I thought "Hey, what if I use the torque ring with this new pipe?" ;) So, I did and HEY!!! Now, if I'm in first and just putting and crack the throttle the front end IMMEDIATELY starts lifting. This is SO nice for low speed going-over-rocks and such. And it didn't hurt the top-end kick. A win-win situation. :nod: [/QUOTE]