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Message: [QUOTE="Jaybird, post: 178390, member: 22283"] I don;t think any of us want a police state. But, folks that scream "violation of my civil liberties" need to take deep breath and then list those liberties. Can you do it? I think not. Most think that anything they want to do is a liberty they have. Wrongo. I'm not trying for a flamed argument here, but many have no idea what our founding fathers wrote, let alone what they actually meant by writing. Yes, we have a right to our privacy in our own homes, it is written so. But, you DO NOT HAVE ANY RIGHTS as far as privacy in your automobile. Show me this in the US Constitution or it's amendments and I'll stand down. If you drive on a road, you are exercising a privelage that the the state has extended to you. The state also has as much right to pull you over FOR NO REASON, as it does to LET you drive on it's roads. I think many folks feel that since they are sort of private in their auto that they should have the same rights as they do in their homes. I say BS. How do you think they get by with roadblock DUI checks? Because they CAN and they SHOULD. Just think how much better off we would be if every automobile had a sensor that alerted law enforcement of alchohol presence in the car. One may see that as a violation of his civil liberties, I see it as a sensible thing that we will one day have to do. BTW, since when does an employer requiring a urine test for employment constitute a violation of any civil right? You think an employer owes you the job no matter what? And also,DSsuper92....let us know how your drug test goes EVEN IF you know ahead of time. Better yet, talk to someone who thought the same thing you did. Technology has caught up to the test decievers. I say if you feel a urinalysis is a violation of your civil liberties you not apply for a job that requires it and Viola...no violation! I'd like to see a poll on how many think the ACLU is your friend. [/QUOTE]

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