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Message: [QUOTE="crustydemon1970, post: 1214476, member: 73767"] I don't think it's the floats. The gas doesn't leak out with the valve on. It might be a little rich. I really only do it when the bike is warm and after a few kicks I get impatient and open er up. The problem I had this weekend is that I tried to start with a fouled spark plug (not known at the time), and when it didn't start after a few, I tried the old tried and true open up the throttle method. Well this time it didn't work. I flooded the hell out of it. So my new feeling is that for a hot start it's ok, but not a cold. Any other thoughts? [/QUOTE]