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Message: [QUOTE="Zero, post: 34100, member: 16560"] Philb - It sounds to me that you are suffering a lot more than I am.. I do know ice seems to help.  I will look into finding a good deep massage therapist.  Have you ever had an MRI on your neck?   I agree with you that the muscles are causing more problems than any mis-alignment by the bones.  I am knotted up in my traps all the time. Drives me crazy.  I am trying to work on my posture as well. [/QUOTE]